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Ron5 wrote:Isn't it amazing how quickly some people have come to accept the Type 31 is on a par with Type 23's, Type 45's & Type 26's when it comes to assessing capability.

Who has accepted that Type 31 is on a par with T-23 , 26 and 45

As said before T-31 has number of quick upgrade options open to it after it enters service 1 . towed sonar this is being fitted to the 3 Danish IH class starting this year and will be proven in service by the time T-31 comes in 2 . the model is shown with 2 x Phalanx one each side of the rear 40mm t...

It comes down to money and tasking what do you see a MQ8c doing on a B2 River and when it comes to cost for same money as 5 MQ8c,s you could have 2 x Hero/ Camcopters on 45 ships in the fleet. don't get me wrong MQ-8c is a good bit of kit but is it over kill for a B2

Camcopter s-100 can operate up to 200 km from the ship and be fitted with I- Master Radar) capable of searching 800 km sq of sea an hour in rain fog or smoke LMM ) capable of carrying and fireing 2 LMM SIGINT payload EO/IR turret and more important it is here now and with contrator support could be ...

Not proposing anything other than cutting our cloth according to the budget the MOD are getting. So as people are not overstretched and we stop get into situation where we are not in control of events. Maybe the way to go could be sell POW and build two 240 x 40 meter LHD's capable of operating 20 ...

this is a camcopter operating from a B2 skip to 2,18 gives some idea of the type use it can bring

great pic's above of the containers fitted shame she is not carrying a UAV to help give eyes on over the Horizon for anti drug or recon op's

For me Type 26 will be quite well fitted for its task and if it was fitted with NSM it would have 32 cells and 48 CAMM allowing a load out of 48 CAMM , 12 ASROC , 12 Tomahawk , 8 NSM plus helicopter carried torpedo's given they will be stuck with the carriers and TAPS this should be ok As for type 3...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EObH_LuX0AAMnZ-?format=jpg&name=large Is that 2 x 3 cell stand-alone Lockheed Martin ExLS VLS systems I spy just aft of the gas turbine intake/exhaust on this new model of the Canadian version of the Type 26? I’d heard the Royal Canadian Navy were looking at SeaCepto...

interesting that no one jumped on the fact that unmanned MCM is being released to service this March and this could fit in with Type 26/31

what I am trying to get at is if type 055 has 112 VLS it could if it carried nothing else carry 112 anti-ship missiles there for type 45 really needs to carry close to or more than 100 AAW missiles ships like type 055 have moved the bar and 48 missiles don't cut it anymore

112 VLS, 64 fwd and 48 aft, extra 8 A-50 cells to allow a load out of 32 Aster and 96 CAMM = 128 missiles Top Trumps... the way to go. And as 45ers are not going to be singletons, any more, the helo for self-ASW-defence is surplus to requirement: the space can be filled with :D Tomahawks Not at all...

and this why T-45 needs the extra 8 A-50 cells to allow a load out of 32 Aster and 96 CAMM = 128 missiles

Admitingly I may have got my individual aircraft numbers wrong but in 2007 the RAF had around 210 fighters made up of just for shits in 2007 the UK fast jet fleet was made like so Tornado GR units x 8 Sqn's ( 2, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 31 ,617) Tornado F3 x 4 Sqn's ( 25 , 43, 56, 111) Harrier x 4 sqn's ...

For me even once the B1's have gone the 5 B2's will be tasked as needed they will carry out home waters tasks but will also be sent on deployments else where and this is why I feel they should be fitted with 1 x 40mm , 2 x stabilized GAU-19's , 2 x manual 12.7 HMG's giving them a good basic anti-air...

For me the middle ground could be fitting a 40 MK4 up front with associated sensors to make best use of the 3P rounds and then fit 2 stabilized GAU-19 on the wast points this could give the ship a high rate of fire power out to about 2000 meter and keep off the grass reach of 10,000 meters

donald_of_tokyo wrote:But, I'm afraid St Helena has no usable port?

A River class could use Rupert's wharf as dose MV Helena

Like a modern AP-S I like your thinking could also use St Helena

There was talk of Medway going to Caribbean some time ago but for that to work she will need a UAV . And if it is to be the Gulf then she will need to be up gunned in some form and for me that would mean 57mm and 2 x 30mm with LMM . She could paddle around the Indo- Pacific flying the flag until rep...

for me the UK needs 250 fast jets these should be split into 5 wings with 31 jets per wing. Each wing will would have 3 Squadrons of 10 jets plus a station commands jet and all maintenance and logistics would be covered by the wing and not the flying unit and would go for something like this 150 Typ...

HMS Clyde already has Scanter 4100 radar , flight deck , 2 ribs and a 30mm cannon the same as the Batch 2's . for me leave the B1/1.5 alone and fit 57mm and maybe 30mm with LLM to the B2's this should cover them for anything in the low to low mid ops range

Maybe the name of the game is to get 5 ships in the water and then start adding capability quickly we now know that the 3 IH class ships are having a towed sonar added starting this year this will allow the RN to look at this as a possible risk free upgrade to type 31 plus once we pick a interim ant...

I still feel that as type 31 comes on line we should have a EoS command with 3 type 31 and a Wave class based in the gulf allowing one T-31 to deploy for up to 8 months of the year into the Indo-Pacific being joined and then replaced for the rest of the year by the Wave class as for now I feel we sh...

It is all good training to put to sea in short time and escort a ship in one of the worlds choke points even more so when as you put it it is a school ship. Also remember that most Russian war ships going through the channel do so with there AIS turned off and the role of the RN is to keep other shi...

Sorry if this has come up already but I was interested to see a image of a F-35B carrying a 25mm gun pod when operating from USS Wasp when was this cleared ?