UK Defence Forum

News, History, Discussions and Debates on UK Defence.

Search found 1212 matches

Go to advanced search

by Poiuytrewq
19 Jun 2019, 20:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

....but could it be a good move for the RN to move to a mix of 76 mm and 40 mm for both the T-45 and the T-31 and do away with the 114 mm the 30 mm and Phalanx on these ships to have a armament like so It would make long term financial sense but short-termism is getting in the way as usual. The T26...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Jun 2019, 19:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1594
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

Repulse wrote:Does seem a waste as the best RM platform would be an Albion but we have one tied up. Maybe getting both LPDs back in service and replacing Argus should be ahead of any FLSSs.
It would be an attractive option, especially if DFID funded a couple of converted points anyway.
by Poiuytrewq
04 Jun 2019, 09:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91107
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Not if we go for Leander they won't ! I’m no defender of the T31e, but if the RN thought it was a must-have they would have put it on the RFI? The RFI was not designed by military needs. It was designed by the measure of "what is the minimum possible thing we can still call a frigate in PMQs&q...
by Poiuytrewq
30 May 2019, 16:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

could a shortened variant make commercial sense to BAE & HMG? If only it was that simple :D One of the major problems would be the 21m beam dimension. Shortened to 125m or 130m it would be a LOT slower with the existing propulsion and if you change that effectively you have a new design anyway....
by Poiuytrewq
30 May 2019, 12:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91107
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Making use of what we have means using the carriers. This is acceptable in the short term because the UK don't have many F35, however one day there wont be the space for 10+ commando Merlin, and another deck will be required. It means using both CVFs AND an Argus replacement in supporting amphibiou...
by Poiuytrewq
30 May 2019, 11:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 890
Views: 43841
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

I see the Karel doorman’s more of a modern fort class, I bring them as Iv seen people on here talk about upgrading the waves to allow them to do more for the fleet while keeping RAS ability Karel doorman fits this nicely. If done right a set up of 1 Albion, 1 LSS and 1 Karel doorman each west and e...
by Poiuytrewq
29 May 2019, 20:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3781
Views: 188137
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Interesting update on the Canadian Surface Combatant programme.

https://www.janes.com/article/88853/ful ... ead-cs19d1
by Poiuytrewq
29 May 2019, 11:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 890
Views: 43841
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

You're confusing "concept art" with detailed design Who produced the 'concept art'? Are you suggesting a floodable well dock isn't possible? I don't really understand your point. The FSS should bollw the Tides by becoming lean ships fully focused on the huge task of sustaining the carrier...
by Poiuytrewq
29 May 2019, 09:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 890
Views: 43841
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

That doesn't sound feasible. Is there any example of a platform being modified to support a welldeck? My impression is welldecks are major structural features, and as such requires a clean design. The initial FSS concepts incorporated a floodable well dock. http://ukarmedforcescommentary.blogspot.c...
by Poiuytrewq
29 May 2019, 09:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

but I guess you said so, too, in your concluding sentence? I maintain that a £250m T31 is a dangerous compromise but a £375m T31 is credible and would be a lot more use to RN in a conflict scenario. However, for basic maritime security tasks even a £250m T31 is OTT, especially if it's forward based...
by Poiuytrewq
29 May 2019, 08:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 890
Views: 43841
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Is there any particular operational benefit having the bridge forward or aft? A bridge foward design would be preferable if the FSS is to form the basis of a common hull for other RFA vessels going forward. IF the money was in place, theoretically, a universal bridge forward design could be suitabl...
by Poiuytrewq
27 May 2019, 10:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

On the "Broad-beamed-Leander", discussed in T31 News thread. In my opinion a broad beamed Leander (16m+) could be just what RN needs to cost effectively bulk up the Frigate numbers. British designed and built it could have been a real winner both for RN and export but the £250m fixed unit...
by Poiuytrewq
27 May 2019, 10:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91107
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

For me this is a very interesting development as RFA Argus looks to be acting in the Aviation Support Ship role. Is the RN assessing what aviation features a FLSS would require... Working out the structure of an effective LSG perhaps? I’m hoping for the latter a “basic” small third RFA flattop woul...
by Poiuytrewq
26 May 2019, 10:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Corvette sized Leanders Then build 3 Al Khareefs with RN systems. I think the 99m Khareef is a bit tight for space and the range and endurance figures are on the low side. image.jpeg Those 6m on a 105m Leander might make all the difference. image.png Realistically we are comparing apples with apple...
by Poiuytrewq
25 May 2019, 20:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

As time goes by I'm more in the build batch 3 rivers (ie extended for hanger) camp, build & crew them as cheap as possible to save costs including manpower in the shorter term, just use them for local duties,med,flag waving,fleet ready escort etc, I agree with the main thrust of you argument bu...
by Poiuytrewq
25 May 2019, 17:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

How do you know, since no formal spec has yet been produced? That is part of the problem with the T31 programme. The goalposts have shifted already and I think they will continue to shift. My concern is that if the T31 unit price exceeds £300m to £350m we have probably started with the wrong base h...
by Poiuytrewq
25 May 2019, 10:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

it's going to be an underarmed Frigate with reasonable growth potential At present it's going to be a dangerously underarmed frigate with reasonable growth potential. It's too much and not enough at the same time. Too much like a frigate to be a cost effective maritime security vessel and too much ...
by Poiuytrewq
24 May 2019, 18:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The T31e Arrowhead 140 video looks interesting, and I can see flexibility in the design... Realistically the A140 is a £350m to £400m Frigate to do it properly. Interesting to see the core crew has now increased to 'around 100'. That means with the aviation and boarding parties included we are look...
by Poiuytrewq
24 May 2019, 18:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243339
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

I believe this is the first time we have seen a crane on the A140.... The Iver Huitfeldt's have an amidships crane to service the weapons deck. Although located slightly differently it looks pretty similar. 3e535ad9be3f2935217f9215eaac99d3.jpg Personally I would also like to see a 16t deck crane to...
by Poiuytrewq
22 May 2019, 15:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

With the view that RN want to get to 24 escorts the RB2s could be a first small step. They could and they most likely will but I don’t they will be drastically up-armed as they will be needed in the UK EEZ as soon as the RB1's are chopped. It will be interesting to see what the RB2's are tasked to ...
by Poiuytrewq
22 May 2019, 10:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Every time a warship class is designed for just one role then one lesson hasn't been taken on board The flip side is trying to achieve everything and ending up with a £1bn T26. Generous growth margins aren't free, it's a trade off between build standards, armament, sea keeping qualities, range and ...
by Poiuytrewq
21 May 2019, 20:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361972
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

and increase the budget slightly to allow for a sixth hull What are the Navy going to cut to fund it? Nothing. What I am proposing is to proceed with the T31 programme virtually as planned but accept that they will never be credible Frigates at £250m per hull. Accept also that £250m will only allow...
by Poiuytrewq
21 May 2019, 19:50
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 813
Views: 43360
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Section infantry weapons

Whoever said the 6.8mm was the future?

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... achine-gun

The 6.5mm and .338 combination is ballistically the smart way to proceed. It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Go to advanced search