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by Poiuytrewq
13 Dec 2018, 19:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 1051
Views: 40475
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Six T45's is enough to protect both QE's. Is six T45's enough to protect the entire fleet? No clearly not. The fleet is the carrier group. What formations will the navy have beyond the carrier groups? How can you ensure the safety of the Amphibious Task Group if your T45's are 200nm away with the C...
by Poiuytrewq
13 Dec 2018, 15:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 1051
Views: 40475
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

random NATO AAW frigate to fill in for a T45 because we didn't build enough Does the RN need more than 6 destroyers to protect 2 carriers? Six T45's is enough to protect both QE's. Is six T45's enough to protect the entire fleet? No clearly not. We have lost our strength in depth. If the CSG is com...
by Poiuytrewq
13 Dec 2018, 13:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 1051
Views: 40475
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Why not build another 2 or 3 AAW Destroyers based on Iver Huitfeldt/Arrowhead140? When would a RN task group need more than three destroyers? Our american friends typically assign a destroyer squadron of three Burkes to a carrier group, I doubt the RN need more. Yes but it's 3 Burkes plus a Tico. I...
by Poiuytrewq
13 Dec 2018, 11:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3555
Views: 99986
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Good news for the Canadian programme :thumbup: https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/government-gets-ok-to-give-60b-warship-contract-to-lockheed-martin-as-trade-tribunal-backtracks/wcm/7f597cc1-6fea-4928-a05c-c5cd687f07df https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/local/warship-contract-pause-lifted-2...
by Poiuytrewq
13 Dec 2018, 10:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 1051
Views: 40475
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

Why not build another 2 or 3 AAW Destroyers based on Iver Huitfeldt/Arrowhead140?

Another 2 or 3 goalkeepers to supplement the single T45 in the CSG would be a welcome boost.

If these goalkeepers were a T31 variant which also included GP and ASW versions all the better.
by Poiuytrewq
12 Dec 2018, 20:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9090
Views: 339437
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

serge750 wrote:I know the ARCS for the 3 x CIWS work but would another one be better for such a relatively small cost ?
A 4th Phalanx would be a very worthwhile upgrade in my view. :thumbup:
by Poiuytrewq
12 Dec 2018, 19:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9090
Views: 339437
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

So why does every other navy with large carriers and effective escorts, still see the need to fit a far more comprehensive defensive suite on theirs, and these countries have been operating large carriers continuously for decades. Even when we had Ark Royal and Eagle, they were not fitted with the ...
by Poiuytrewq
12 Dec 2018, 13:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9090
Views: 339437
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

I am still worried the Queen Elizabeth is too naked against hostile action. If you are only having Phalanx as the active means of defence fit four and ideally make two Sea RAM. Other nations and commentators cannot understand our way or thinking and how we think our most valuable surface units shou...
by Poiuytrewq
10 Dec 2018, 08:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

50 miles is totally impractical Tell that to the USMC. 50 miles may be at the upper end of what is practical but with large LCAC's and a suitable sea state, an initial assault at this distance is perfectly possible. It's unproven and untested in a major conflict but it's the direction planning is n...
by Poiuytrewq
10 Dec 2018, 07:27
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1512
Views: 45953
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

It appears that the QRA scrambled at Lossiemouth yesterday armed with Meteor war shots for the first time. "An RAF Lossiemouth-based Typhoon fighter jet takes off on a Quick Reacion Alert scramble loaded with the Meteor missle." image.jpg image.jpg https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12...
by Poiuytrewq
06 Dec 2018, 01:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

One thing I should have mentioned regarding the Knud Rasmussen Class is that they only cost £60m :shock:

An impressive design with an impressive price tag.

I think it's fair to say that we could learn a thing from the Danes and OMT.
by Poiuytrewq
05 Dec 2018, 23:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Turning to the use of the T-26 as a platform for amphibious raids. This is one of the reasons the design is what it is and that it has a "Mission" bay. Yes if the T-31 were built along the lines of the Danish Absalon it would be ideal for the role but it isn't going to be and as currently...
by Poiuytrewq
05 Dec 2018, 01:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

....countries like Italy are building shiny new Amphibious Assault platform but we are building two super carriers. It is fine to have a view on the matter but it must be accepted that we are talking about Fantasy ships here when discussing LHAs or LHDs for the RN. I am intrigued with your certaint...
by Poiuytrewq
04 Dec 2018, 19:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Do you think the Marines will be equipped to operate that far out? Define OTH Does this help? - Standing on the ground with h = 1.70 m (5 ft 7 in), the horizon is 4.7 km (2.9 mi). - Standing on the ground with h = 2 m (6 ft 7 in), the horizon is 5 km (3.1 mi). - Standing on a hill or tower of 100 m...
by Poiuytrewq
04 Dec 2018, 13:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I can easily see the sole platform designated for amphibious assault with the actual RN being the RN's active carrier. You could be right but how long is it going to be before someone in the Treasury works out how much it costs to operate PoW as an LPH? The costs will be eye-watering. This could be...
by Poiuytrewq
04 Dec 2018, 13:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)
Replies: 493
Views: 21545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

I really wish we could push back the Dreadnought programme to allow an eighth Astute to be built as most experts believe that is the minimum number we need, but I also wish I could win the lottery this Wednesday or Saturday. Personally I would rather spend the £1.5bn+ that would require on getting ...
by Poiuytrewq
04 Dec 2018, 09:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)
Replies: 493
Views: 21545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Got to be good news :

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/imps ... rogrammes/

Now just need to do the same with the T26 programme :thumbup:
by Poiuytrewq
04 Dec 2018, 01:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

That doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense, build a platform with an F35 capability but there is no need to use it until required. Feel free to explain how an LHD without the F35's embarked and the associated aviation element costs more to operate than a platform without such a capability. Yes...
by Poiuytrewq
04 Dec 2018, 00:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

That is such a massive over capacity it really is ridiculous to suggest increasing it. Completly disagree, just because you have future proofed a design doesn't mean you have to regularly use a capability. If some more foresight had of been used when putting together our current Amphibious fleet we...
by Poiuytrewq
03 Dec 2018, 23:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Lord Jim wrote:If we want to talk about the Royal Navy getting a large LHD then we need to put "Fantasy" in the title of this thread.
Thats pretty clear, what is your prediction for the future Amphibious setup?
by Poiuytrewq
03 Dec 2018, 22:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

You make some good points here and I am not disagreeing with your proposal but I will add some observations for consideration. when we talk about spending 1.5 billion on a LHD I think that we could get more for the money. As I said earlier if we built another Ocean and added 30 meters to the length ...
by Poiuytrewq
03 Dec 2018, 14:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

If the force becomes even more concentrated the RN can do fewer tasks, earning less exposure to the world......Smaller packages like the Bay class that can be distributed and applied to a wide range of tasks are much more usable for 90% of its service life, offering greater value for money. RN does...
by Poiuytrewq
03 Dec 2018, 13:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8172
Views: 157029
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Taking 3 VLS modules off the T26 is going to save peanuts Removing the TLAM capability will save a significant amount, as will removing the Mk45 and auto magazine and simplifying the mission bay. I would aim for a 57/76mm, 24 CAMM and a single 8 cell Mk41 for ASW and ASuW on the downgraded variants...
by Poiuytrewq
03 Dec 2018, 12:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

RFA operate slightly bigger Bay Class replacemen; a big, simple and cheap dock. That gives the UK a flexible and scaleable package, where no one platform is too big to loose (to politics or the enemy). Importantly all off those types can be applies to roles other than amphibious assault, just like ...
by Poiuytrewq
03 Dec 2018, 12:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 1599
Views: 31545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

That's not a good thing, the amphibious force then becomes too concentrated and less flexible. It will have to be more concentrated from now on. We can't afford the current fleet that why one Albion is in extended readiness. If we are too ambitious when replacing the fleet, it will get cut again an...

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