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by shark bait
17 Jun 2019, 07:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243232
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Given the increase in tension in the Gulf, would people say that a T31 built at the base RFI standard would be capable of escorting Tankers in such an environment? This is asking the Navy to deter a state actor, if the UK is placing this demand on it's personnel the MOD should equip them properly, ...
by shark bait
17 Jun 2019, 07:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1587
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Royal Marines boats

SW1 wrote:starting point for a littoral strike group a bay, 4 such patrol vessels, 2 wildcat, 5 scan eagles air vehicles and 80 RM. would require considerable investment to make it happen.

Sounds like a job for the LSS

(Also not Scan eagle, go for it's big brother, the Blackjack (terrible name))
by shark bait
10 Jun 2019, 12:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123449
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

RapidFire is an odd choice of name, compared to other CIWS it has a very slow rate of fire.
by shark bait
10 Jun 2019, 08:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 586
Views: 32018
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Is that the sonar its pulling?
by shark bait
10 Jun 2019, 08:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123449
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

StarStreak isnt in the navys inventory, and what is the point in StarStreak? It's used to counter attack helicopters, is that something that threatens the OPV's?
by shark bait
07 Jun 2019, 14:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 298
Views: 24077
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

The US are getting a lot of use out of the Bay class as the moment, they also have helicopters operating off a bay in the Caribbean Right now the RFA have; ⋅ @RFALymeBay landing marines in the Baltic. ⋅ @RFACardiganBay clearing mines in the Gulf. ⋅ @RFAMountsBay increas...
by shark bait
03 Jun 2019, 14:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123449
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

And in coastal environments an active sonar is the only way to stand a change of detecting a sub. Their is defiantly an application for these compact active sets, however its not clear is the river class is a suitable option. If something like this is on the cards surely the T31 is the ideal candida...
by shark bait
03 Jun 2019, 08:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123449
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Tempest414 wrote:give it something like a CAPTAS-1 sonar

Are there any examples of something similar? Is a small ship stable enough, and are the old fashioned engines quiet enough?
by shark bait
03 Jun 2019, 08:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 890
Views: 43820
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

purely for stores with a Merlin capable flight deck with hopefully a hanger for two. Sounds perfect. While I used to advocate a multirole SSS, we must recognise the RFA will not get extra hulls meaning a multirole SSS will only dilute the capability that really matters; supporting the carriers. The...
by shark bait
31 May 2019, 09:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361732
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Are there any example in the past that a ship design is "shortened"? I don't think there is. Unless its been accommodated from the beginning its a redesign of the hull, mechanical and electrical systems. It's more or less a new design with some common compartments. I understand lengthenin...
by shark bait
31 May 2019, 08:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Something like the landing craft above absolutely must be part of the renewal project, or even better sooner! The Marines have to get faster to offset the increased distance they will manoeuvre across.

(Does this also apply to the land? Viking is not designed to travel great distances)
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 13:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

The carriers will end up operating more like a uss America than uss enterprise. That will certainly be true for at least the first decade of service. After that who knows? Hopefully the RN can build a structure that allows the carriers to reach their potential. Yes, I am advocating replacing Argus ...
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 12:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

It's not going to happen, QE and PWLS will not see action at the same time.

For amphibious ops a single carrier will be operating with a Hybrid air wing of F35 + Commando helicopters.
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 11:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

one carrier is not big enough to fit all of the toys people want to cram into her simultaneously One carrier is big enough to fit all of the Navy's serviceable aircraft, so for the time being it's fine. However once the fast jet numbers start to rise space becomes an issue; 25 F35 + 10 ISTAR Merlin...
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 11:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Jake1992 wrote:With the current budget and political out look on defence I just can’t see another flat top coming with out big risk to PoW.

If the Admirals cart articulate the difference between a carrier and an LPH they shouldn't be in the job.
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 11:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 890
Views: 43820
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

What happened to the commonalty you were pushing the other day? If there is a requirement similar to the above, surely it would be better served by the Tide Class derivative in service with the Royal Norwegian Navy? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7zwz13XkAIbPxU.jpg A Tide Class Solid Support Ship A Ti...
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 11:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Making use of what we have means using the carriers.

This is acceptable in the short term because the UK don't have many F35, however one day there wont be the space for 10+ commando Merlin, and another deck will be required.
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 10:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

In a decades time construction will need to start on a new assault ship, if the MOD can't fit it in the plan when with ten years of planning something is very wrong. I would expect the next SDSR to launch a project to build a new flat top, to be delivered in the early 30s. A single flattop over that...
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 08:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3781
Views: 188074
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Ron5 wrote:Interesting development in the FFG(X) program that might have T26 implications


So LM aren't doing the competitive design stage, but that doesn't stop them bidding for the final build contract, and they could bid the T26. Is that right?
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 08:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3781
Views: 188074
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Welcome news to hear LM Canada contracting Glasgow for the engineering work.
by shark bait
30 May 2019, 08:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Whatever happened to keeping things simple? Sure, it may be possible to distribute just as many helicopters around the fleet, but operational efficiency will suffer. Operating aircraft at sea, is incredibly complex. Amphibious assaults are incredibly complex tasks. There is no need to make the job m...
by shark bait
29 May 2019, 17:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

The Bay class.

One platform for helicopters, one platform for landing craft. Keep it simple stupid.
by shark bait
29 May 2019, 16:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

What was suggested is for the Albion’s to be replace with 2 Dekdo style LHDs built to ocean standards. The fact that they’ll be operating LCUs would require them to come closer and not be able to stand off like Ocean did. Don't bother with the dock, build a modernised HMS Ocean, problem solved. My ...
by shark bait
29 May 2019, 15:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Jake1992 wrote: but unlike Ocean they will have to come close to conduct the assault role

Whats changed? Why are the RN now required to place their LPH close to shore?
by shark bait
29 May 2019, 13:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 91054
Location: Pitcairn Island

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Perhaps with practice it could reach a similar rate. However it sounds much more intensive because it looses the economies of scale. As said Ocean would always sit back while the Albion’s went in close ... what your proposing is the main assault ships that will be going close built to lesser standar...

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