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by NickC
19 Jun 2019, 13:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

but could it be a good move for the RN to move to a mix of 76 mm and 40 mm for both the T-45 and the T-31 and do away with the 114 mm the 30 mm and Phalanx on these ships to have a armament like so I've said it before but the Mk8 is a dinosaur - smart ammunition is the future and the Mk8 is never g...
by NickC
18 Jun 2019, 12:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243870
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

*1: In 57mm case, 3P ammo is standard, as I understand? Think posted before L3 won the USN contract for 57mm Advanced Low-Cost Munitions Ordnance round, ALaMO :crazy: , beating off the BAE ORKA developed from the BAE 3P round. ALaMO costing ~50% more than standard non-guided round, but kill taking ...
by NickC
01 Jun 2019, 13:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Russia announced it will be developing a new advanced anti-ship missile specifically for its Su-57, a fifth generation fighter/attack a/c, a larger and faster Russian F-35, minimal info on missile, mention it will be active homing. Have seen figures where stealth attack aircraft and missiles eg LRAS...
by NickC
31 May 2019, 12:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Mk 110 BAE Inc Bofors 57mm main gun US Ammunition Production - L3 won the US Navy contract for the 57mm Advanced Low-Cost Munitions Ordnance, ALaMO, in 2018, to counter boghammar threat of ~30 boats, ALaMO round gives guidance capability to take out gun errors to compensate even at max range of the ...
by NickC
30 May 2019, 13:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243870
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

I think you will find that USN vessels by the end of WWII had far more AA than that. The final class of Battleships, the Iowas had 10 dual 5 inch DP guns, 20 Quadruple 40mm Bofors Guns and 49 single 20mm Oerlikons. Even their Light Cruisers by the end of the war had 6 dual 5 inch DP guns, 4 quadrup...
by NickC
29 May 2019, 12:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243870
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

T31e CIWS - WWII era CIWS and today WWII Oerlikon 20mm/70 Cyclic 450 RPM , practical 250-320.(tried to post pic twin Mark V Mtg on Starling though only 61 KB message says sorry the board attachment quota has been reached) Bofors 40 mm L/60 Model 1936 "British water-cooled version was developed ...
by NickC
26 May 2019, 10:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3781
Views: 188453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Ron5 wrote:Mixing in personal opinion with quotes from an authoritative article is intellectual dishonesty.


I do apologise as thought it would be self evident that highlighting a major defect in the product would not be part of the salesman's spiel.
by NickC
25 May 2019, 11:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3781
Views: 188453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

NavalNews video interview with BAE Inc from SAS2019 on their Mk45 Mod 4/62 5"/127mm main gun with the Italian Leonardo Vulcano round. Mk45 current ballistic ammo has a current max range of 13nm / ~24km, BAE Inc looked at various alternatives but went with the Vulcano as had the longest max ran...
by NickC
24 May 2019, 10:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3781
Views: 188453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

NavalNews video interview with BAE Inc from SAS2019 on their Mk45 Mod 4/62 5"/127mm main gun with the Italian Leonardo Vulcano round. Mk45 current ballistic ammo has a current max range of 13nm / ~24km, BAE Inc looked at various alternatives but went with the Vulcano as had the longest max rang...
by NickC
21 May 2019, 16:25
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ground Based Air Defence
Replies: 379
Views: 23113
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ground Based Air Defence

RAF awarded contract to Spanish company Indra last week for one of their Lanza Long Tactical Range 25 radars, max. range ~ 210 to 240nm, to be delivered before year end. The LTR-25 is a L-band (frequency range of ~1-2GHz with a wavelength range of ~30-15cm) solid-state 3D long range radar, planar ar...
by NickC
18 May 2019, 11:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Damen showcasing their Crossover at IMDEX Asia 2019 for the Singapore MRCA, Multi Role Combat Vessel, upcoming competition, new frigates planned to replace their Victory corvettes from approx 2025. 130m; 19.6m; 5,300t; 28 knots; crew 108 to 128, accommodation ~ 250 The scale model on display fitted ...
by NickC
14 May 2019, 11:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

FREMM cost's around €1,000m/unit @ 2028 prices. FTI will cost around €760/unit @ 2028 prices. Not insignificant. The Spanish Ministry of Defence and Navantia signed contract 23rd April for five of the new F110 frigates worth €4.3M, build cost €3,700, €740M each / ~£640M, balance €600M design etc. j...
by NickC
09 May 2019, 23:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3781
Views: 188453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Hint, might be totally unrealistic, that LM will drop the LSC Freedom hull as the basis of their bid for the USN FFG(X) and use the T26 H,M & E as with their winning bid for the Canadian CSC contract. Problems that LM have with their LCS Freedom hull is that with its max 3,500t displacement its ...
by NickC
20 Apr 2019, 14:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

One option how to spend some of the limited £1250M budget if ASW was the priority. How to be effective in countering the new generation of ever quieter subs, the passive sonar miles long TAS effectiveness seriously degraded, require ever more powerful active sonars and computers. Looking at ASW helo...
by NickC
19 Apr 2019, 12:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The US Navy FY2020 five year planned funding reducing spend on ships and aircraft by $6+B, weapons, R&D spend increased plus funding additional $3+B for unmanned ships and subs. Two new unmanned surface vessels, Larger version size of a corvette 2,000t; 200-300', cheap as R&D 2020 budget $44...
by NickC
14 Apr 2019, 18:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

@Poiuytrewq  Numerous options for silenced IH propulsion for ASW, may be one possible HED option for budget, remove the four 8MW MTU 8000 M70s max speed 29/30 knots, replace with only two 10MW MDEs, eg MAN20V38/33D STC, max speed will drop back to ~25 knots. Another simplification/cost saving would ...
by NickC
12 Apr 2019, 12:39
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 190700
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

USN and Marines planning on slowing down procurement of F-35Bs and F-35Cs, only planning to buy 10 Bs and 20 Cs in next five years between FY2020 and FY2024, partially to fund Block 4 / Continuous Capabilities Development and Delivery, C2D2 will cost the Department of the Navy $806.6M in RDT&E j...
by NickC
08 Apr 2019, 10:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

SEA part of Cohort plc, have signed a MoU with Brazilian company SIATT for their lightweight torpedo launcher, crew training solutions and thin-line sonar arrays / KRAIT Defence System, an anti-submarine warfare solution for smaller vessels. SIATT will be their local partner in bidding for contracts...
by NickC
04 Apr 2019, 11:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Naval News reporting that German Government would authorize the necessary export guarantee worth euro 2.3B to Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) to cover six ships for Egyptian navy including three MEKO A-200s. In January a ~euro 500M /~£425M deal with Egypt for the export of a single MEKO 200 friga...
by NickC
04 Apr 2019, 10:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123768
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

BAE Systems 2018 Annual Report dd 28 March 2019

"Offshore Patriol Vessel programme quality issues have required the creation of a £47m loss provision"
by NickC
30 Mar 2019, 11:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Does this also mean Brazil will be taking the BAE CMS-1? The CMS built by the Brazilian systems house Atech, a subsidiary of Embraer, in conjunction with Atlas Elektronic Bremen, a subsidiary of Thyssenkrupp, who build CMS for German ships and subs. Brazilian plan local content of ships ~40% betwee...
by NickC
29 Mar 2019, 13:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

A few more details, Length 107.2 m; Beam 15.95; Draft 5.95 m; Displacement 3,455t; 4 x 6MW MAN 12V 28/33 DSTC; 4x Caterpillar C32 Gensets; cruise 14 knots; CMS Atech/ ATLAS ELEKTRONIK; Integrated Platform Management System L3 MAPPS (as spec'd for Type 26) Pics show Armament MBDA’s Exocet MM40 Block ...
by NickC
23 Mar 2019, 11:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Xav/NavalNews has a write up on the Dutch upgrade of their four 6,000t/40 VLS cell De Zeven Provinciën-class AAW frigates, commissioned 2002-5 with upgrade completion due 2024. The highlight is the replacement of the existing SMART-L radar with the new generation GaN SMART-L MM radar, AESA with high...
by NickC
21 Mar 2019, 11:36
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 190700
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

It has been revealed that USAF is working on version of USN’s Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile-Extended Range, AARGM-ER to fit in the F-35A weapons bay, called the Stand In Attack Weapon, SiAW The AARGM-ER sized to fit inside the weapon bays of the F-35C or externally and said can fitted exter...
by NickC
19 Mar 2019, 12:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9610
Views: 362956
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

March 18th NavalNews coverage of Thales Nederland (nee Hollandse Signaalapparaten) presentation on their new generation CMS, AWWS, Above Water Warfare System, no doubt building on their experience with TACTICOS (Babcock T31/A140?), for the new multi-purpose Dutch/Belgium frigate. AWWS necessary beca...

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