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I think there is a common misunderstanding here. GD originally said an Ajax chassis was used in the first mock up that was to gauge army interest in the concept. Use of an existing chassis obviously saved a bunch of time. Other components were begged, borrowed and stolen from existing vehicles. Aft...

I think there is a common misunderstanding here. GD originally said an Ajax chassis was used in the first mock up that was to gauge army interest in the concept. Use of an existing chassis obviously saved a bunch of time. Other components were begged, borrowed and stolen from existing vehicles. Aft...

We know how politicians work the arguments against 4 small over 2 larger carriers was that we would ended up with 2 small in the end Stereotypes are not very useful, at least for arriving at conclusions - how did we end up from 3 small to 2 larger? It is up to Navy leadership to articulate the diff...

the 'Future Commando Force' which looks as though it will create more small specialist units to support a wider operation. Is there a doc somewhere, titled as per the quote? It’s similar to the arguments that were made about having 4 Cavour size carriers instead of the 2 QEs Well, not quite. The mi...

The obvious concern I have about a distributed approach using many smaller platforms is will HMG and subsequence HMGs get and stick to the numbers required or well we just end up with the same amount of platforms as current but only smaller so over all reducing our capability. It’s similar to the ar...

Jake1992 , possibly - what I’m trying to get to is what is the auxiliary fleet size and composition to support the objective I’ve laid out. If the Points had capacity for a couple of hundred troops each and a brigade (plus support) is approx 5,000. Then overload the 3 Bays and 4 Points could move 2...

The question of what replaces the bays and points and in what numbers along with their support such as waves Argus and any solid support is tied to the replacement of other assets such as mcm. I would disagree with this, it has an influence yes, but no more than in the design of all ships going for...

Deploying what and were at what scale will dictate a lot. Is it to deploy 1 or at most 2 brigades within the NATO area? If so then on rail thru the tunnel then drive. Is it to the north points to Norway then drive. It carriers, ssbns or amphibious, you can do 1 of those at a stretch 2 but not all 3...

For me if we are to have a proper global amphibious capability going forward we will need to replace the current fleet like so Albion with a LPH 240 x 40 meters capable of carrying 900 troops and operating 25 aircraft off 8 spots Bays & Argus with 4 x new 200 meter Enforcer capable of carrying ...

Jake1992 , I’m not really considering MCM or other capabilities to make an area safe, but more lift and logistics into an area that hasn’t a significant port where equipment like Mexiflotes will be required. It is true though that the LSDs Bays could have a secondary MCM mothership role, but I’d ar...

Putting aside escort, Littoral warfare, SF raids and first wave amphibious assault topics, my question is what is the UK envisaging as the requirement and capability for follow up waves. I’m assuming (maybe incorrectly) that a key capability would be globally deploy via the sea, land (via a safe or...

Does anyone know when the first orders are being placed with first expected delivery ? Out of curiosity what variants and numbers of each variant do others on here think are needed to give the strike brigades what they really need to be along with fitting out any other formations others may think Bo...

Personally I think it would be a good Flag waving asset to have 2 x hospital ships funded from the aid budget if a fair amount of money we pay in taxes does not go to the needy people it is meant for, would be better for publicity I think, it barely gets a mention on the news that the (grey warship...

Well your knowledge seems to be lacking as you only seem to think medical staff can come from the NHS which is clearly bull but don’t let that get in the way. But yes we are off topic Ok, maybe I am obsessed with the NHS. Wonder why that could be. The point is that the N in NHS stands for National,...

No I’m all open for debate and disagreements but being a rude twat because you think your point is the only valid point show more about you than me Iv seen this from you on a number of descutions with different people really shows you up Rude twat? Yeah, maybe. I can have a low tolerance threshold....

reign it in. If you don’t like being called out for being dumb, stop being dumb. Secondly who said the staff have to come from the NHS ? We have a thriving privet health sector along with large organisation like doctors with out boarders where with the right pay and incentives staff could be drawn ...

provide the UK with an asset Exactly, the whole construct has nothing to do with aid or international development. It's about more toys. A pair of vessels that would provide HADR and medical treatment around the world has nothing to do with aid really ? We current give money hand over fist to chari...

medical aid to poorer nations Like charities do? Why is the government taking up roles normally delivered by NGO's? If they do it'll cost twice as much to deliver half the effect. If that really is the goal, the best course of action is to give the money to charity. The govenerment already give stu...

Your wanting to keep the role but just don’t want a bay to do it. I find this odd because a bay IMO is ideally suited to the fed presence role. And doesn’t negate the requirement. Someone tell me why the DFID budget should not fund something like this ? Tell why it’s a waste ? Tell what down sides ...

When the bay is in the Caribbean it conducts maritime security and enforcement, interacts and hosts regional forces and conduct various exercises AS WELL AS disaster relief first response. If dfid has a “hospital” ship there who does all the other stuff? The bay? If such a vessel is a dfid vessel w...

So DFID buy two of these and there is then no need for Argus and a Bay. No the DFID buys 2 of these then along with the RN purchase of 2 FLSS there is no need for Argus / Replacement but there is still a need for the bays as the logistics side of the amphibious force ( the second wave ) along with ...

So DFID buy two of these and there is then no need for Argus and a Bay. No the DFID buys 2 of these then along with the RN purchase of 2 FLSS there is no need for Argus / Replacement but there is still a need for the bays as the logistics side of the amphibious force ( the second wave ) along with ...

That is the reasoning every time this pops up, and it has nothing to do with international development. It's just a story designed to appeal to those who want more toys flying British flags like the old days. The aid budget is not just for international development though, it’s also to provide aid ...

Sounds really stupid! A Royal Yacht, that's also a logistics ship...why? I haven't seen a compelling argument for government operated aid ships. Smushing that bad idea together with another controversial idea makes it sound a solution desperately in search of a problem. I can see a HDAR ship or 2 b...

Is it the same as AUS is putting on their Boxers ? If not why surely that would of been the most sensible choice followed by the CT40 IMO. No. Rheinmetall is offering their IFV, the KF41, with that turret. Unlikely they’d supply that to a competitors well. Apparently the requirement specified that ...