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by dmereifield
22 Jan 2020, 14:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10933
Views: 796958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Maybe I am optimistic but I do think we will get a second batch of T31 ( mainly because they will be cheaper than the T26 or T45 replacements ) with a slightly better spec, but still will not make up for the loss of the 2010 cuts..T22 etc :oops: :oops: At the expense of the T45 replacements and/or ...
by dmereifield
22 Jan 2020, 13:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10933
Views: 796958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

RetroSicotte wrote:Given the Type 31 is an escort on paper only, it's going from 19 to 14 regardless anyway.


We don't know the final T31 spec, yet
by dmereifield
21 Jan 2020, 12:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11052
Views: 1080728
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

I'm not worried about the QE, the FSS or any other new ship build programmes. They are totemic, and Boris has sounded off about wanting to increase ship manufacturing in the UK. I'm not worried too much about the RAF either, but I'm more about the Army head count and a number it's programmes. Hopefu...
by dmereifield
17 Jan 2020, 22:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11052
Views: 1080728
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

"For all those thinking he has huge sway I'd remind you that his strategy of pro-roguing Parliament was a dismal failure, he literally ran out of ideas then, if it hadn't been for the Lib Dems and SNP giving the government an election, which he didn't do much to deliver, he would have been a fo...
by dmereifield
17 Jan 2020, 22:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11052
Views: 1080728
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

topman wrote:
dmereifield wrote:I think its politically impossible, even if it were desirable to HMG (which I doubt very much is), to sell one of the carriers now


People no doubt said the same about Nimrod mra4.


Not comparable situations at all
by dmereifield
17 Jan 2020, 16:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11052
Views: 1080728
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Cutting 50% of our carrier force doesnt exactly say "global Britain" - I'll happily wager it doesn't happen so long as Boris is PM
by dmereifield
17 Jan 2020, 15:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11052
Views: 1080728
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

I think its politically impossible, even if it were desirable to HMG (which I doubt very much is), to sell one of the carriers now
by dmereifield
08 Jan 2020, 20:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3086
Views: 268615
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Very interesting, according to the piece (as I read it) she will be permanently based there....
by dmereifield
02 Jan 2020, 11:49
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1689
Views: 169304
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

150 is seeming more realistic...200 would be a pleasant surprise, just optimism evades me at the moment
by dmereifield
01 Jan 2020, 09:33
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 488
Views: 64520
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

mr.fred wrote:
dmereifield wrote:
dmereifield wrote:8 years ago they received a contract, and thus far none have been delivered....


Delivered operationally I mean to say, which is a criticism of the Army/MoD, not BAE

What about Lockheed Martin?


Yeah, not LM either!
by dmereifield
31 Dec 2019, 18:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10933
Views: 796958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Lord Jim wrote:Well we are only buying FIVE sets for the T-23 and once they are gone what shall we do with them. :D


Here's hoping that 2 + 2 = errr, 5, in this case
by dmereifield
31 Dec 2019, 18:06
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 488
Views: 64520
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

dmereifield wrote:8 years ago they received a contract, and thus far none have been delivered....


Delivered operationally I mean to say, which is a criticism of the Army/MoD, not BAE
by dmereifield
31 Dec 2019, 18:05
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 488
Views: 64520
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

8 years ago they received a contract, and thus far none have been delivered....
by dmereifield
12 Dec 2019, 00:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10933
Views: 796958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

A naval architect on one of these boards said that the length / hull depth ratio on T26 is already right at the limit and a stretch isn’t possible. Also there may be top weight issues with a top end radar mounted high, as t26s engines are mounted relatively high for ASW quietness I can’t find the p...
by dmereifield
25 Nov 2019, 21:51
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1689
Views: 169304
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

How do you balance that against scale and affordability? If Tempest led to an actual aircraft, how many could the UK and Italy afford to purchase between them over the next 2-3 decades? Probably 200-250?
by dmereifield
23 Nov 2019, 13:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1046
Views: 106711
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Thanks Ron. Wow, a whole 33% of the money going into UK Plc...
by dmereifield
21 Nov 2019, 19:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10933
Views: 796958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It will be 1 T45, not 2 In October this year Commodore Utley is reported to have said the 2021 CSG deployment will be made up of 1 carrier , 2 x Type 45 , 2 x Type 23 , 1 x SSN , 1 x Tide & Fort Victoria Has this been changed in any statements I have missed ? However I will say that it has been...
by dmereifield
21 Nov 2019, 00:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10933
Views: 796958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

For me when it comes to the carrier group we know now that the carrier group when it deploys in 2021 will do so with 1 x carrier , 2 x type 45 , 2 x type 23 , 1 x tide , 1 x Fort plus allied escorts will come and go as the deployment goes on So we have a idea what the Navy has in mind given this I ...
by dmereifield
16 Nov 2019, 09:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10933
Views: 796958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So you're saying that its only an increase of £500 million to the budget (do we know if this £2 billion programme budget for the batch if 5 is accurate?) Since the previous programme budget was £1.25 billion for the ships + £250 million for xxxx (whatever associated costs accounted for previously). ...
by dmereifield
16 Nov 2019, 08:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6233
Views: 483010
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

GFE can't be account for much of that, surely. Why not? I (optimistically) imagined that it reflects the decision to "add" non-negligible GFE to the program? # If total money is not enough, for exmpke, by disbanding HMS Monmouth now and relocating CAMM system (and its ~60M GBP update cost...
by dmereifield
15 Nov 2019, 20:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6233
Views: 483010
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

GFE can't be account for much of that, surely. Is it for servicing and maintenance contracts post build?
by dmereifield
06 Nov 2019, 00:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1046
Views: 106711
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Can't see beyond the paywalls. Can anyone provide a summary? Is this likely to help or hinder a possible UK build? There was a UK consortium in the running wasn't there, so presumably the consortium wasn't competitive?
by dmereifield
02 Nov 2019, 14:41
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Boeing P-8A Poseidon (MRA Mk.1) (RAF)
Replies: 970
Views: 107315
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boeing P-8A Poseidon (MRA Mk.1) (RAF)

We will be getting a further buy of 8, announced after the election. Would be nice, but sounds either too good to be true (with additional funds made available to acquire them) or a bit crap if it means cuts elsewhere to fund them. Either way, why wait until after the GE to announce it? And, if it'...
by dmereifield
18 Oct 2019, 23:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1046
Views: 106711
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Tempest414 wrote:
dmereifield wrote:Poor consolation prize. Probably wouldn't happen even if Navantia won anyway


maybe they have been watching Babcock say you will offer work to other yards then say they didn't meet the standards needed and keep the work


Yup, that was my point

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