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by Aethulwulf
22 Sep 2019, 13:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

However the Type 31 program is not without its money questions i.e the fact we paid 3 companies 5 million pounds for design work this lead to two good ship designs with the winning bid from Babcocks and a well developed design that BAE can still push so money well spent in my book . But as for the ...
by Aethulwulf
21 Sep 2019, 19:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10273
Views: 801622
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

It is traditional for the ship's navigator to get a bottle of champagne if he can get the ship's bridge directly under the rail bridge as a train passes overhead when leaving the Forth. At 0147 on Sunday its unlikely there will be any trains running, so you can rule out that time as a possibility. S...
by Aethulwulf
19 Sep 2019, 00:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2954
Views: 182245
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Trust me, it needs a 3D system. If it didn't and 2D was good enough, the target could be at a given bearing and range but might be at 10m above the waves or 10,000m. CAMM's little RF seeker is not going to find or hit anything with that level of uncertainty in the intercept position. T26 - Artisan 3...
by Aethulwulf
18 Sep 2019, 22:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2954
Views: 182245
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

"Sea Ceptor does not need dedicated tracking or fire control radars, it can work with all modern 3D radars" https://www.mbda-systems.com/?action=force-download-attachment&attachment_id=16336 as a 2D radar it can only track bearing and range. ... and velocity, don't forget. It's true th...
by Aethulwulf
18 Sep 2019, 17:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2954
Views: 182245
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure about the ops room. I knew it didn't have a "normal" ops room on a different deck to the bridge. The TS4100 can certainly track targets, but as a 2D radar it can only track bearing and range. These tracks can then be passed to the CMS, where another syste...
by Aethulwulf
18 Sep 2019, 16:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2954
Views: 182245
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I am still puzzled by the suggestion of increasing the lethality of the River B2s. What is the role for the B2s where this would be required? Fishery protection (and other EEZ roles) does not require the use of lethal force, even after Brexit. Similarly, combating drug smugglers, people smugglers or...
by Aethulwulf
18 Sep 2019, 12:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10273
Views: 801622
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Weather forecast and tide looks good for around dawn tomorrow. Wind is forecast to pick up again around the time of tomorrow evening's high tide.
by Aethulwulf
17 Sep 2019, 09:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

CL/Babcock It will be interesting to see if they contract out to CL. The program director said the bid they submitted was for 100% of the build at Rosyth, and once the contract was signed they would evaluate the business case for out sourcing some of the work. I think this means is they will get a ...
by Aethulwulf
13 Sep 2019, 11:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6150
Views: 349537
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

https://www.ft.com/content/3d11e7a2-d575-11e9-8367-807ebd53ab77 Doubts over Type 31 frigate work for struggling yards H&W and Ferguson can bid on new contracts but without guarantees, warns Babcock Babcock International has warned there is no guarantee that the two struggling shipyards in North...
by Aethulwulf
12 Sep 2019, 00:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6150
Views: 349537
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

From the Telegraph.... Boris Johnson: Let's bring shipbuilding home with new Type 31 Royal Navy frigates The fortunes of troubled shipbuilder Harland and Wolff could be revived with the announcement on Thursday of the preferred bidder to design new Type 31 frigates to be built in the UK. Work will c...
by Aethulwulf
11 Sep 2019, 20:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The timing of such announcements are often taken out of the hands of the MOD and are under Cabinet Office control. They will try to find a quiet news day, so to maximize the chance that this good news story will feature on TV news and not hidden away on inner pages of just a few newspapers. They may...
by Aethulwulf
10 Sep 2019, 12:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 962
Views: 64291
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Who knows, maybe Navantia will buy Harland and Wolff and the build a UK design in a UK shipyard (owned by a Spanish company).

;) :?
by Aethulwulf
10 Sep 2019, 10:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 962
Views: 64291
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.navantia.es/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/BMT-Navantia-FSS-Brochure-Non-OS-Version-Digital-210x297mm-1-2.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiQ1YnC-sXkAhXoQkEAHSeIDjYQFjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1VZ-zWVlpD_9OoetNDgFQS Details of the BMT Navant...
by Aethulwulf
10 Sep 2019, 05:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Frankly, I'm not really interested in your opinion of what you think the RN should do (or anybody else's). What I am more interested is working out what is the RN's thinking and what are they actually going to do. Cancelling T31 and using the money to build an extra one or two T26 is fantasy - it is...
by Aethulwulf
10 Sep 2019, 01:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Just been watching the latest evidence to the Defence Committee on recent events in the Gulf... https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/dc67d3d2-94a8-47f9-808a-3354e925b58f Admiral West very clear that you can not use River Batch 2 OPVs for escorting shipping in the Gulf. Similar message from Penny Mo...
by Aethulwulf
30 Aug 2019, 08:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

"The first operational deployment, in 2021 (CSG21), is anticipated to include the Eastern Mediterranean, the Middle East and the Pacific. CSG21 will be by far the largest and most powerful task group assembled by the RN for some time. QE will be escorted by 2 Type 45 destroyers, 2 Type 23 friga...
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 22:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6150
Views: 349537
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

What this sounds like is an "unofficial" drop of a story, just prior to the final decision, to gauge the public/press reaction. Now just wait to see if the story gets picked up by other papers, bbc, etc and whether any MPs, union representatives or other interested parties kick up a fuss.
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 21:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6150
Views: 349537
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

I can't read beyond the paywall, but the Telegraph is reporting that Babcocks is going to be announced as preferred bidder https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/08/24/babcock-set-build-new-cut-price-frigates-weaken-bae-shipbuilding/ A consortium led by defence supplier Babcock is set to be name...
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 17:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Maintaining the two carriers in a non-standard readiness cycle will be challenging and will force a fundamental change in the approach to maintenance and training. Switching all the ships in the carrier group to a similar readiness cycle would be too difficult and too high a risk. The training progr...
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 16:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Read my post above at 15:39, all is explained.
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 16:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

As normal, your opinion is wrong. I bow to your knowledge and vastly superior wisdom and intellect. Good. You should. I find you fantasy opinions on how to run a navy very tedious. Have you considered the possibility how a fleet of 5 ASuW missiles might need to be managed and swapped across the 6 A...
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 15:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

As normal, your opinion is wrong. I bow to your knowledge and vastly superior wisdom and intellect. Good. You should. I find you fantasy opinions on how to run a navy very tedious. Have you considered the possibility how a fleet of 5 ASuW missiles might need to be managed and swapped across the 6 A...
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 15:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Allocating 2 T45 and 2 T26 for each CVF is good enough, I think. In peace time, the number could be even less (supplemented by NATO frigates), looking at French CVTF. Operated in the same rotation, 4 T45 and 4 T26 is what is needed for 2 CVF. (I think availability of CV will be the same to those of...
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 13:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Wrong... - CEPP will require an allocation of 6 T45s & 6 T26s; - CEPP will utilise the CVF & LPD - there is not a separate ARG - TAPS will take up the remaining T26 It’s all down to the rate of CEPP deployments IMO, it’s tight but a 5+5 allocation plus generate a 2+2 CBG, but with a higher ...
by Aethulwulf
24 Aug 2019, 13:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549377
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Tying together a lot of threads, it is clear that: - CEPP will require an allocation of 5 T45s & 5 T26s; allowing a very short period surge of 7-8 Escorts - CEPP will utilise the CVF & LPD - there will not be a separate ARG - FRE/TAPS & the UK’s contribution to SNGM1/2 will take up the ...

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